Monday, September 25, 2006

Getting the point

One of my favorite parts of working with Scouts as an adult is seeing promise in a Scout and helping them to see it and achieve it. In my job it's not something I can do often short of working with my Order of the Arrow chapter members. This weekend I was able to work with some of the chapter members and members of some of the troops. For a couple of the guys it seemed like it was the first time any leader had taken the time to ask them what they thought and treated them like an adult in considering their point of view and they responds by being very helpful and doing what I asked them to do. To some extent it was gratifying to have a posse following me around wanting to help out and just chat although a couple of them got a little trying at times.

Tonight I tried a new tack in tackling our challenge in recruiting Boy Scouts by visiting a troop and using the same technique to get their Scouts' input. Some of them seemed confused by being asked at all, others weren't particularly forthcoming, but several weren't shy about their opinion. Mostly they expressed that Boy Scouts was considered "dorky" by other guys at school, that the uniforms sucked, that advancement was tough, and on through the litany of complaints that I recall from being a Scout.

The question that struck me the most was "Why does it matter to business and community leaders that someone was an Eagle Scout?...What does knot tying and first aid have to do with being a good banker or businessman?" I was a little disappointed that we didn't have the time to discuss this more, but it certainly is a very good question from a middle school kid and strikes right to the core of Scouting. How do you explain that it isn't the skills that you learn that count, but what you learn in that process that makes the difference without diminishing that process? In answering the question I wonder if it would be like quantum physics where the act of observation changes the properties of what is being observed defeating the whole purpose. The scouts that asked are three brothers who happen to be nephews of seven Eagle Scout brothers that include our State Senator and a bank president that I know. I sent that question on to them as it seemed like they really wanted to know. I got the impression from the leaders in the unit, youth and adult, that these guys tried their patience, which I could see, but I hope they stay in because they have a lot to gain from the program.

Anyways, I am rambling, but I thought it worth mentioning one of the reasons I like my job. I'll probably add a couple of troop visits to my schedule in October to ask the same question about recruiting and see what I hear.

3 Comments:

Blogger BF said...

The short answer is: businesses of all kinds are always looking for the easiest way to hire the best person. You'll generally need other qualifications (a degree), but why should they hire an Eagle Scout? Because an Eagle has proven himself to be a dedicated leader capable of managing others and working toward set goals.

Just repeat that to any HR person you come across and you'll get hired.

The longer answer (which you hinted at, but didn't have time for) does in fact revolve around the path, not the destination. Sure, working on the First Aid merit badge doesn't mean squat to an engineering firm looking to hire a new designer, but it makes you a better person overall. It's one more thing that you can do that most other people can't. Yeah, basketweaving was kinda pointless (which is evident by the fact that trained apes could get that badge in under 6 hours), but it's one more thing.

Colleges, business, whatever, are always looking for that one more thing that makes you stand out among the rest. Being able to point at something like Eagle removes the questions from the equation. You want to know why I kick ass? Eagle Scout, BSA - that's why. Now how much are you going to pay me?

19:19  
Blogger Jake said...

That's on the mark, but explaining it to not yet mature Scouts takes more since the idea that learning is multi-dimensional hasn't hit yet.

My favorite is still at Rocky Mountain National Park talking to the backcountry ranger:
"Do you guys have the right gear and know what you're doing to camp up there?"
--Mutual shared look of 'not really' between Adam and I
"We're both Eagle Scouts."
"Great. Here's your permit."
Yeah, we lived but only because we like PB sandwiches and were more macho than smart.

09:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about "The badges provide stepping stones of difficulty. You start with the small ones and work your way up." If you show a 5th grader the equations at the end of an algebra book, he'll be overwhelmed, but if you start out with addition and subtraction and work up, it looks easier.
"Being an Eagle Scout is like showing an employer that you have studied how to be a good person. You didn't just leave it to chance, you made a choice to become a better person than you were." It doesn't mean Eagle scouts are better than everyone else, it means that they want to be and they are willing to work to get there.

19:39  

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